Taurus settlement!

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  1. Twicepop

    Twicepop Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2012
    NW Ohio
    Gotta' love them lawyers...........NOT. Sounds as though the safety does not restrict the movement of the firing pin when the weapon is dropped, I'm not aware of any handgun design that does that. They are probably somehow at fault for not telling the people involved, DON'T DROP YOUR GUN.
     
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  2. 2A-Jay

    2A-Jay Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2016
    Yelm, WA
    Of the models that had this problem none of the Gen 2 were subject to the recall. My first Taurus, a PT-945 was also not on the list, but it too suffered a defect, though it was a Brittle Extractor that would break. Mine did with-in the first 10 rounds. Taurus Fixed it for free. I was with out the gun for a total of 3 weeks. Shipped it to the them without the magazines it came with, when I got it back it had 2 brand new magazines for free.
     
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  3. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2012
    I have never cared for Taurus. Maybe a bit caused from their ill beginnings but I have just never came around.

    Highboy
     
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  4. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2012
    The 1911 model 80 series restricts the firing pin from moving. Also, the Ruger 1911's have a titanium firing pin. Titanium is feather weight so it cannot develop the inertia needed to strike the primer if dropped. It could be said the Ruger is designed to restrict firing pin movement.

    Highboy
     
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  5. Twicepop

    Twicepop Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2012
    NW Ohio
    OK, I'll give you the Series 80, as for the Ruger that's stretching the point a bit.
     
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  6. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2012
    No, I don't think so. The titanium firing pin was used to defeat this exact safety issue and it works perfectly. The reason the series 70 became an issue for many 1911 builders was because the firing pin could fail if dropped. So, the series 80 was designed. Ruger's approach, as opposed to going with the series 80, was to use a titanium firing pin and the problem was solved. IMO, I don't think that is stretching it. Very practice IMO, and that was why I went with the Ruger.

    Thanks Twicepop,
    Highboy
     
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  7. Twicepop

    Twicepop Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2012
    NW Ohio
    Yes, I think so. It's apples and oranges, the only commonality is they are both fruits, but are different, The blocked firing pin of the Series 80 and the titanium firing pin are metaphorically both fruits, but are two totally different entities that may or may not achieve the same results. The safety is in most instances a positive mechanical device to limit or stop the movement of the trigger, the sear or the hammer in most cases, or block the firing pin as in the Series 80. The titanium firing pin is in no way a positive restriction device, it only lessens the chance of an inertia firing. Two completely different approaches to possibly achieve the same results, thanks for you feedback.
     
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  8. drymag

    drymag Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2013
    May be the wrong perspective, but: re "The ar-15 slamming a round in can sometimes dimple the primer." This would suggest a rifle dropped vertically on the barrel from the carry position would not discharge the round as the momentum would be less than the recoil spring momentum (guessing). Yet, the ar pin is heavier than a pistol. Sounds like too much engineering to figure out so it would behoove not dropping the gun to avoid proving an engineer wrong or making a lawyer rich. Yet what you wrote makes sense, which means no cents for the lawyer.
     
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  9. drymag

    drymag Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2013
    I bought a pt-111-G2 9mm when it went on sale and had a rebate coupon (also got a mil discount). I'm going to get another one around the Christmas time if they repeat their pattern from last year. I was never a fan of Taurus (except the Judge), but the cheap price made me jump on it. Glad I did. It is a fun gun to shoot and manages the recoil nicely.
     
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  10. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2012
    So, through apples and oranges if I read you correctly, Ruger did not design their new 1911 to restrict firing pin movement upon dropping?

    Highboy
     
  11. Twicepop

    Twicepop Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2012
    NW Ohio
    You're putting words into it, that I didn't.
     
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  12. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2012
    Ha, your awesome Twicepop!!! I get your point and it is nice to see someone express a good point and stand their ground.

    Thanks for the good back and fourth.

    Highboy

    P.S. I still think the Ruger titanium firing pin is an apple. Possibly of the Bonanza variety. :D
     
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